The academic perspective holds that there are two basic possibilities-- immanence and transcendence, but I think that both could allow for having moved out of your ego state. In transcendence (Nietzsche), one is always transcending the existing state, but somehow does not lose the ego, but retains it as a valuable thing. In Bataille, one steps sideways from oneself and loses the ego, temporarily, but then regains it -- a process called dialectics
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