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What shamanistic systems do that moralistic systems do not is to put you into a relationship with yourself. Moralistic systems are actually designed to avoid this, since they are constructed in order to prevent you from succumbing to harm/danger, but one cannot learn anything in relation to oneself without risking oneself.

You solitary one, you go the way of the creator: you will create a god for yourself out of your seven devils! You solitary one, you go the way of the lover: you love yourself, and on that account you despise yourself, as only the lover can despise. The lover wants to create because he despises! What does he know of love who has not despised that which he loved! With your love and with your creating go into your solitude, my brother; only much later will justice limp after you. With my tears, go into your solitude, my brother. I love him who seeks to create beyond himself, and thus perishes. [Nietzsche/Zarathustra (emphasis mine).]

In HUMAN ALL TOO HUMAN, Nietzsche also says that intellectual truth has nothing in common with morality.  Group based morality preserves human nature, but it is intellectually in error.  

 Is there a desire to transcend the human, here, and is it part of Nietzsche's Icarian complex? To transcend one's humanity is to destroy oneself.

Bataille was at least more explicit as to what his Nietzschean proclivities involved. To go against morality -- to transgress -- was explicitly to self-destruct. The fall from grace is forever. Bataille held that Nietzsche's quest for self-destruction was indirect and thus unconscious  -- an "Icarian complex". Bataille's philosophical paradigm makes out that self-destruction ought be undertaken in a way that is conscious and understands that human destruction is inevitable. Not only is it inevitable to the degree that we must necessarily transgress against morality in order to "find ourselves", but it is also so in that we are mortal creatures, doomed to die. So, by embracing this reality directly (rather than indirectly, as Nietzsche does) we can -- paradoxically as it happens, for human nature is contradictory and paradoxical -- actualise our own natures more fully.

Common to both Nietzsche and Bataille is the following paradoxical understanding of human nature and philosophical dialectic:  moral systems have a  preservative effect on humanity, but at the cost of truth as well as at the cost of creative self actualisation.  Not to seek to preserve oneself is, by contrast, the way to individual self-actualisation, but at the cost of self-destruction.

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