Friday 18 May 2012

Mistaking culture for nature


The perception is to compete for attention etc to WIN in a discussion because it is painful to fail to do so...competition for nonmaterial things...emotions being something very dangerous to start competing over...yes,we are not chimps.Some of our more basic responses are however,very much the same.
I must think more about the advent of something that didn't evolve biologically....it tends to be a big basis of my discipline to analyse the world that way...to look at human culture and ascertain the biological parameters that may have led to its cultural development..other wise one would have to say most humans are just bat crap crazy.I guess i am comfortable with that too.
Jennifer Frances Armstrong Thing is, I ask Karen Cronje or Helen Riach Thom or Sandra Lewis to tell you about our schooling and upbringing, you will see it did not have this weird emotional competitiveness about it that you seem to think is universal.
Jennifer Frances Armstrong Say, something, Sandra Lewis. Did we used to bicker and manipulate or fight in any way? Was that part of our socialisation or culture to do that?
If the culture YOU grew up in does not experience it doesn't mean it isn't one of a range of human behaviours...for millions of Australian,UK and AMerican girls at least if not SA/Zim.
I said it isn't universal but it is a range of human behaviours which CAN be expressed..as in the primary comment you posted in fact.If not in yr upbringing then certainly in others.
Jennifer Frances Armstrong So? Mass murdering is in the range of human behaviours that can be expressed. Genocidal behaviour, etc. Shall we make Rwanda our model of human behaviour?
Jennifer Frances Armstrong I think it is a feature of capitalist thinking in industrialized societies.
No, I do not remember having experienced any of that when I was growing up and going to school at Borrowdale Junior School in Zimbabwe. We were also respectful to one another and I don't recall any name calling or swearing either. The first time I heard bad swear words was when I started school in Australia! I look at the young kids now a days and it disgusts me how they treat one another and speak to one another and the bad language they use at a very young age. It makes me want to wrap Chloe up in cotton wool and bloke her ears so she doesn't have to hear any of it!
Sandra Lewis ‎*block her ears!
Jennifer Frances Armstrong Thanks, Sandra! My first experience of swearing was about Form 3 in high school, when one of the girls had returned from Europe and was using some experimental language to see how we would react. That whole thing of being nice to each other's faces whilst undermining each other behind the scene was never part of our upbringing.
Sandra Lewis I totally agree Jennifer! I am so glad it was not part of our upbringing. I remember everyone at junior school as being just "nice" and there was none of this two faced business, bitchiness or emotional competiveness!
Sandra Lewis That is including the boys! They were all nice to!
Jennifer Frances Armstrong Yeah, the culture and its mood were just different. People find it hard to believe that it's not human nature to be nasty. They think I must be idealising my earlier experiences, but this was not so.

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